Aust Open (NCC U1600) Expulsion - Chess Chat

**Captain Underpants** · 07-01-2009, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adamski

In case anyone is wondering why there is a Bye in the U 1600 draw now, it is sad to report that a player had to be expelled from the tournament for cheating. That player appealed the decision of the arbiter which appeal was dismissed by the appeals committee, upholding the arbiter's decision by a 3-0 vote.

I start this thread in the interests of newsworthiness and general interest. I'm hoping it will have value long after the morbidity and sensationalism (if any) has died down.

I would appreciate an official statement if possible to clarify the situation. I would appreciate an unofficial statement from anyone, as long as it is made in absolute good faith and there is a genuine belief that the facts cited are accurate, and further on the understanding that any statement is indeed limited to facts, albeit some of them may be missing.

**Captain Underpants** · 07-01-2009, 07:53 PM

Does anyone know of any other events where an expulsion has occurred due to a charge of cheating? Both Aust and International.

**Bill Gletsos** · 07-01-2009, 07:53 PM

He was caught using computer assistance whilst in the toilet.
The arbiter expelled him from the tournament.
He appealed the severity of the punishment.
His appeal was unanimously dismissed by the appeals committee.

**Captain Underpants** · 07-01-2009, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

He was caught using computer assistance whilst in the toilet.
The arbiter expelled him from the tournament.
He appealed the severity of the punishment.
His appeal was unanimously dismissed by the appeals committee.

Thank you Bill. What a damn shame for everyone concerned. Is he an adult or a junior? I ask because I will severely curtail (be circumspect) any comment I make if he is a junior (and encourage others to do likewise).

**Bill Gletsos** · 07-01-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunner Duggan

Thank you Bill. What a damn shame for everyone concerned. Is he an adult or a junior? I ask because I will severly curtail any comment I make if he is a junior (and encourage others to do likewise).

14 year old junior.

**jak** · 07-01-2009, 07:58 PM

umpire

appeals committee! This tournament is too prestigious and brillliant to be marred by an, albeit sad, incident like this! Let's get on with it!
CAGLES

**Phil Bourke** · 07-01-2009, 09:12 PM

Excellent job by the arbiters and all involved. What, if any, further sentence will be imposed? Similar incidents OS have attracted up to a 10 year ban from playing in tournaments.

**arosar** · 07-01-2009, 09:46 PM

The game is currently available on the blog!

AR

**Rincewind** · 07-01-2009, 09:46 PM

It's a terrible shame that this has happened. However, I'd like to point out that the Thread title is a little misleading. The player was expelled from then U1600 tournament which is called

The Norths Chess Club Centenary Year Under 1600 Tournament

Not the Australian Open.

*CameronD* · 07-01-2009, 09:55 PM

Complex stuff.

Have their being any similar situations in ACF history?

Was wondering why anyone would bother to cheat at a U1600 tournament, but a 14 year old would make sense.

Difficult case for the NSWCA considering the case

1) Disciplinary action
2) Ratings affect (against previous opponents, even previous periods)
3) if FIDE rated, could they get involved.

The ACF have my sympony.

**Adamski** · 07-01-2009, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rincewind

It's a terrible shame that this has happened. However, I'd like to point out that the Thread title is a little misleading. The player was expelled from the U1600 tournament which is called

The Norths Chess Club Centenary Year Under 1600 Tournament

Not the Australian Open.

Rincewind is right. Re the question on further action, the situation will be referred to the NSWCA and the ACF.

Incidentally, today's appeal had to wait until RW's game was finished to be heard, as his opponent Peter Abbott was on the appeals committee. Their game was drawn in the ending. Earlier, I thought RW had the better of it.

RW or another mod, can you change the thread title to something like "NCC Centenary U 1600 Expulsion"? Ta.

**Bill Gletsos** · 07-01-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adamski

Rincewind is right. Re the question on further action, the situation will be referred to the NSWCA and the ACF.

Incidentally, today's appeal had to wait until RW's game was finished to be heard, as his opponent Peter Abbott was on the appeals committee. Their game was drawn in the ending. Earlier, I thought RW had the better of it.

RW or another mod, can you change the thread title to something like "NCC Centenary U 1600 Expulsion"? Ta.

I saw the thread title not as referring so much to a specific tournament but to the event.

The event is the Australian Open Championships.

**Rincewind** · 07-01-2009, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adamski

Incidentally, today's appeal had to wait until RW's game was finished to be heard, as his opponent Peter Abbott was on the appeals committee. Their game was drawn in the ending. Earlier, I thought RW had the better of it.

Yeah I think if I had been a little sharper I could have done something with the c-file. I needed to avoid the exchange of rooks and/or somehow give infiltration squares for my king in the ending. In the end though I was happy to have played a reasonable game without too many blunders.

**Rincewind** · 07-01-2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

I saw the thread title not as referring so much to a specific tournament but to the event.

The event is the Australian Open Championships.

You raise a good point Bill so I have left "Aust Open" in the title but added "(NCC U1600)".

**road runner** · 07-01-2009, 10:57 PM

Completely warranted to expel him from the tournament, in my opinion.

07-01-2009, 07:53 PM	#2
Captain Underpants CC Grandmaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Subtropical Brisbane, Australia Posts: 11,054	Does anyone know of any other events where an expulsion has occurred due to a charge of cheating? Both Aust and International. __________________ Due to increased commitments elsewhere, I've ceased prosecuting the case against against the federal ALP and have handed the reigns over to Julia and Wayne, whom, I might add, haven't missed a beat.

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Bill Gletsos Illuminati Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 15,194	He was caught using computer assistance whilst in the toilet. The arbiter expelled him from the tournament. He appealed the severity of the punishment. His appeal was unanimously dismissed by the appeals committee. __________________ The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded.

07-01-2009, 07:58 PM	#6
jak CC Grandmaster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,472	look ahead! umpire appeals committee! This tournament is too prestigious and brillliant to be marred by an, albeit sad, incident like this! Let's get on with it! CAGLES __________________ I am an optimist. It does not seem too much use being anything else. - Winston Churchill Money can't buy you happiness but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery. - Spike Milligan The time to relax is when you don't have time for it! Sydney J. Harris Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time. Marthe Troly-Curtin ACF 3118316 FIDE 3201457

07-01-2009, 09:12 PM	#7
Phil Bourke CC Grandmaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Blayney Posts: 780	Excellent job by the arbiters and all involved. What, if any, further sentence will be imposed? Similar incidents OS have attracted up to a 10 year ban from playing in tournaments. __________________ Get into chess, its a lifetime of enjoyment! Blayney Chess Club is online http://blayneychessclub.com

07-01-2009, 09:46 PM	#8
arosar Closet Grandmaster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 5,046	The game is currently available on the blog! AR __________________

07-01-2009, 09:46 PM	#9
Rincewind Reader in Slood Dynamics Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The multiverse Posts: 16,976	It's a terrible shame that this has happened. However, I'd like to point out that the Thread title is a little misleading. The player was expelled from then U1600 tournament which is called The Norths Chess Club Centenary Year Under 1600 Tournament Not the Australian Open. __________________ Nissuna umana investigazione si pò dimandare vera scienzia s'essa non passa per le matematiche dimostrazioni - Leonardo da Vinci

07-01-2009, 09:55 PM	#10
CameronD Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 928	Complex stuff. Have their being any similar situations in ACF history? Was wondering why anyone would bother to cheat at a U1600 tournament, but a 14 year old would make sense. Difficult case for the NSWCA considering the case 1) Disciplinary action 2) Ratings affect (against previous opponents, even previous periods) 3) if FIDE rated, could they get involved. The ACF have my sympony.

07-01-2009, 10:57 PM	#15
road runner Batoutahelius Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: on the skin of the pale blue dot Posts: 8,121	Completely warranted to expel him from the tournament, in my opinion. __________________ meep meep

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